Re: Statement in the Daily Beast?
[{"sender": "Rebecca Watson", "recipients": ["Lawrence Krauss"], "timestamp": "April 6, 2011 9:41 AM", "subject": "Re: Statement in the Daily Beast?", "body": "Dear Professor Krauss,\n\nWe met briefly after your talk in Ithaca a few months ago — I'm the girl on The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe podcast. I've really enjoyed your talks and books, but I was surprised to see you quoted in the Daily Beast recently defending Jeffrey Epstein:\n\nhttp://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-04-01/bill-clinton-katie-couric-woody-allen-jeffrey-epsteins-society-friends-close-ranks/2/\n\nCan you confirm if the following quote is accurate?\n\n\"If anything, the unfortunate period he suffered has caused him to really think about what he wants to do with his money and his time, and support knowledge,\" says Krauss. \"Jeffrey has surrounded himself with beautiful women and young women but they're not as young as the ones that were claimed. As a scientist I always judge things on empirical evidence and he always has women ages 19 to 23 around him, but I've never seen anything else, so as a scientist, my presumption is that whatever the problems were I would believe him over other people.\" Though colleagues have criticized him over his relationship with Epstein, Krauss insists, \"I don't feel tarnished in any way by my relationship with Jeffrey; I feel raised by it.\"\n\nThanks,\nRebecca Watson"}, {"sender": "Lawrence Krauss", "recipients": ["Rebecca Watson"], "timestamp": "April 6, 2011 12:50 PM", "subject": "Re: Statement in the Daily Beast?", "body": "yes it is.. Based on my direct experience with Jeffrey, which is all I can base my assessment on, he is a thoughtful, kind, considerate man who is generous to his friends, and all of the women I have known who have been associated with Jeffrey speak glowingly in the same words..\n\nwhy are you asking?"}, {"sender": "Rebecca Watson", "recipients": ["Lawrence Krauss"], "timestamp": "April 6, 2011 9:57 AM", "subject": "Re: Statement in the Daily Beast?", "body": "Thanks for getting back to me. I was asking because I found the quote shocking . . . the evidence against Epstein is overwhelming and he's even pled guilty to paying for sex with a minor. It's in no way scientific or rational to assume that because you never saw him with an underage girl he must actually be innocent. It is possible for a person to be kind and generous with his friends but still a criminal paying for sex with underage girls in his private life.\n\nI'm going to write about the topic on Skepchick, and I'll include any additional statement you'd like if you want to provide more context or if you've changed your mind.\n\n-R"}, {"sender": "Lawrence Krauss", "recipients": ["Rebecca Watson"], "timestamp": "April 6, 2011 1:15 PM", "subject": "Re: Statement in the Daily Beast?", "body": "jeffrey apparently paid for massages with sex... I believe him when he told me he had no idea the girls were underage, and I doubt that people normally are asked for or present a driver's license under such circumstances... Moreover, I also believe that Jeffrey is an easy target for those who want to take advantage of him... Moreover, I can say with great honesty that Jeffrey's time in prison led him to seriously examine his life in very positive ways and I don't believe in blanket condemnations of people. He served time for something that was determined was inappropriate. I honestly don't know who was the victim in this case. I fully expect that these masseuses knew what they were doing, and were not swayed to do anything with Jeffrey that they were not already doing. That is not to approve of the whole behavior, but lots of peopleI know and like have behavior I don't entirely approve of. I know it is not politically correct to say that, because in general this is a very sensitive issue and all other things being equal one should take the side of the young women. But all things are not equal in this case, from my point of view. It is a judgement call, and I will not turn my back on a good friend so easily."}, {"sender": "Rebecca Watson", "recipients": ["Lawrence Krauss"], "timestamp": "April 6, 2011 10:18 AM", "subject": "Re: Statement in the Daily Beast?", "body": "Okay, thanks for this statement . . . I'll print it in full along with the article, probably today. I very, very strongly disagree with your position and hope you eventually reconsider, but I do appreciate you taking the time to respond.\n\n-R"}, {"sender": "Lawrence Krauss", "recipients": ["Rebecca Watson"], "timestamp": "April 6, 2011 1:27 PM", "subject": "Re: Statement in the Daily Beast?", "body": "ok.. I just sent an additional email which moderates this.. everyone was a victim, including Jeffrey here.. and there was no happy resolution.. please add.. \"probably everyone was a victim, with no happy resolution or consequences of these activities\", after \"was the victim in this case.\"."}, {"sender": "Rebecca Watson", "recipients": ["Lawrence Krauss"], "timestamp": "April 6, 2011 10:28:36 AM MST", "subject": "Re: Statement in the Daily Beast?", "body": "Okay, will do."}, {"sender": "Lawrence Krauss", "recipients": ["Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com>"], "timestamp": "Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:31 PM", "subject": "Re: Statement in the Daily Beast?", "body": "just so you know.. you can read from bottom up.. you may be mad that I was blunt... haven't heard from you.. hope all is well.."}, {"sender": "Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com>", "recipients": ["Lawrence Krauss"], "timestamp": "Apr 6, 2011, at 3:15 PM", "subject": "Re: Statement in the Daily Beast?", "body": "no it was appreciated. thanks"}, {"sender": "Lawrence Krauss", "recipients": ["Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com>"], "timestamp": "4/6/2011 10:18:31 PM", "subject": "Re: Statement in the Daily Beast?", "body": "Beyond anything else, you are my friend. I hope we can both always remember that, no matter what.\n\nAre you coming this weekend at all?"}]