<treph> when the topic is something that I care about? that's
circular definition. sorry.
<ShaneBe> what do you care about?
<treph> I care when the argument considers present or imminent
action.
<treph> and also when it's mathematical - in the old sense of
mathematical
<ShaneBe> like whether or not to remove yourself from burning
buildings?
<treph> yeah.
